On this week's episode of Artist Friendly, Joel Madden is joined by Josh Carter of Phantogram.Since their formation in the late 2000s, Phantogram have always created the music that they wanted to hear, drawing from Outkast as freely as My Bloody Valentine. Their fifth studio album, 2024’s Memory of a Day, is no different, offering up dusky psychedelia, floor-filling beats, and a potent chemistry between two longtime friends while contemplating the nature of time. In a conversation with Madden, Carter opens up about how trying too hard can be the death of the art, his special relationship with his bandmate, Sarah Barthel, and their upcoming summer tour with Deftones.Listen to their conversation on Artist Friendly wherever you listen to podcasts. You can also watch the episode over at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Veeps⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. -------Host: Joel Madden, @joelmaddenExecutive Producers: Joel Madden, Benji Madden, Jillian KingProducers: Josh Madden, Joey Simmrin, Janice LearyVisual Producer/Editor: Ryan SchaeferAudio Producer/Composer: Nick GrayMusic/Theme Composer: Nick GrayCover Art/Design: Ryan SchaeferAdditional Contributors: Anna Zanes, Neville HardmanLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices