On this week's episode of Artist Friendly, Joel Madden is joined by Spencer Chamberlain of Underoath.For Underoath, the past year has been one of reflection and evolution, as they marked the 20th anniversary of their 2004 genre-defining album, They’re Only Chasing Safety, with a North American tour, while also looking ahead with the release of their 10th studio album, The Place After This One.In a conversation with Madden, Chamberlain opens up about the complexity of personal growth that comes within navigating the music industry—and how a band’s lifespan can mirror the ebbs and flows of any enduring relationship.Listen to their conversation on Artist Friendly wherever you listen to podcasts. You can also watch the episode over at ⁠⁠Veeps⁠⁠. -------Host: Joel Madden, @joelmaddenExecutive Producers: Joel Madden, Benji Madden, Jillian KingProducers: Josh Madden, Joey Simmrin, Janice LearyVisual Producer/Editor: Ryan SchaeferAudio Producer/Composer: Nick GrayMusic/Theme Composer: Nick GrayCover Art/Design: Ryan SchaeferAdditional Contributors: Anna Zanes, Neville HardmanLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices