Shonda Rhimes and Betsy Beers were writing and producing movies when they realized: it was time to switch to TV. After meeting 1:1, they decided to enter that world together. Because when you know, you know. Since then, they’ve cultivated a partnership spanning nearly two decades. And they say that trust and honesty were key in creating Shondaland. AKA: the company behind our binge worthy faves like Bridgerton, Scandal, and Grey’s Anatomy. In this episode, Shonda and Betsy share: How ABC execs reacted to the Grey’s Anatomy pilot (spoiler: not good)Why skills you’ve learned at old jobs are always usefulWhat their panic button is + why it’s key to supporting each other How they set up an environment for their employees to thrive – and why they love itA Skimm of their book “Inside Bridgerton”  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices