Victoria Beckham has switched industries three times so far during her career: trading in the Spice Girls for a solo career, then launching her own fashion label. Now, she’s in the midst of her third big pivot: a foray into beauty, via a sustainable luxury brand. And she brought in Sarah Creal, a lifelong product developer who’s worked with everyone from Bobbi Brown to Estée Lauder. In this episode, Victoria and Sarah talk about:<ul>
<li>Building credibility by putting product first</li>
<li>Refining long-term business plans</li>
<li>Choosing a co-founder</li>
<li>Standing out in a crowded field</li>
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Anne Wojcicki on Following Your Curiosity

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