Michael Luo, an executive editor of The New Yorker, joins the show as guest host. He sits down with Peter Hessler, a staff writer who spent more than a decade living in and writing about China. They discuss the Sinophobic history behind the Trump Administration’s threats to revoke Chinese students’ visas, how the COVID pandemic reshaped the U.S.-China relationship, and how escalating tensions between the United States and China stand to change the global order. 

This week’s reading:

• “The Victims of the Trump Administration’s China-Bashing,” by Michael Luo
• “The Uncertain Future of a Chinese Student at Harvard,” by Peter Hessler
• “Looking for the National Guard in Los Angeles,” by  Emily Witt
• “The Farmers Harmed by the Trump Administration,” by Peter Slevin
• “The Private Citizens Who Want to Help Trump Deport Migrants,” by Jessica Pishko
• “An Inside Look at Gaza’s Chaotic New Aid System,” by Isaac Chotine

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