<p>When news came that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth may have paused U.S. offensive cyber operations against Russia, it made headlines around the world. But experts say the Trump team is doing something behind the scenes that could be more harmful.</p>

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Mic Drop: Kelly Shaw’s job got hacked – by DOGE

The podcast that tells true stories about the people making and breaking our digital world. We take listeners into the world of cyber and intelligence without all the techie jargon. Every Tuesday and Friday, former NPR investigations correspondent Dina Temple-Raston and the team draw back the curtain on ransomware attacks, mysterious hackers, and the people who are trying to stop them.